EXCLUSIVE: The broadcaster and author revealed details of his conversation with the Reform UK leader on the Daily Expresso podcast
Iain Dale has revealed a private warning he gave Nigel Farage over what he described as a “serious error” by the Reform UK leader. The political commentator and LBC presenter made the disclosure on The Daily Expresso, our daily podcast, when he recounted a conversation with Farage following Robert Jenrick’s defection to Reform UK.
Speaking to host JJ Anisiobi about the role of personalities in politics, Dale said he cautioned Farage after Jenrick left the Conservative Party to join Reform UK. After the host described Jenrick as the “sort of politician that the public despise”, Dale agreed and replied: “I warned Nigel Farage when Robert Jenrick defected. I said you have just made a serious error really.”
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He added: “Because I think that, well, clearly he and [Zia] Yusuf despise eachother. I don’t think Richard Tice has much time for him and I think he’s totally overrated.”

Iain Dale issued a stark warning to Nigel Farage (Image: Daily Express)
Jenrick, the MP for Newark, defected to Reform UK after Tory leader Kemi Badenoch summarily sacked him from the shadow cabinet. She also suspended his party membership after finding alleged evidence that he was plotting to switch sides.
However, Farage celebrated his defection as a “strategic win” and a step forward “realigning the centre-right of British politics”. This was despite Jenrick previously stating that Reform is “not a serious party”.
In February, Jenrick was named as Reform’s choice for Chancellor of the Exchequer. He has also become a public face for the party, appearing on national broadcasters and radio shows to defend policy and address immigration agendas.

Dale told Farage he had made a ‘serious error’ after Jenrick defected (Image: Daily Expresso)
Elsewhere in his podcast appearance, Dale said Britain is in a mess due to a “succession of very bad political leaders” who have “followed public opinion rather than trying to lead it.”
After being asked what would happen if Reform UK won the next General Election but failed, he replied: “Well, that’s my fear. I don’t know. I think we ought to fear that.”
The pair then agreed that if Reform get power but “mess it up”, then people may realise “the Tories weren’t so bad after all”. They added that Kemi Badenoch is “the most popular political leader” due to her straight talking nature.